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等一下,XS Ep.3的討論帖呢?

火花的劇情控都上那去了?
不會連阿浪都死了吧?

[楼 主] | Posted:2006-07-12 15:35| 顶端
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我前两作没玩…………第三作也就暂时放下了- -

黑球和大象在玩



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真是
我寫了篇英文的XS資料總整理

懶的重用中文重寫
想找人幫忙翻
沒想到沒半個人

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英文就英文吧,先发上来看看好了- -


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http://bbs.fireemblem.net/read.php?tid=129706&fpage=1

大象昨晚发在水区的帖子

http://www.stage1st.com/bbs/showthread.php?s=&threadid=210882
这是在另一个论坛的帖子

NIU可以看一下



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U-Do:

The only high dimensional eixstence that ever appeared in this game. A wave existence that is not restricted by individuality. To the lower dimension (the world of human) he is literally The God. U-Do desires comprehension of lower dimension's nature, its inhabitants, everything, thus U-Do makes direct approach to those who can recognize its existence. Also, U-Do created Abel and Abel's Ark, his extenions terminals that allows him to approach lower dimension better.

Though, despite U-Do has no other agenda for the lower relm other than learn and observe (No, U-Do have no grudge with the lowe relm or anything, it is just there watching), its mere existence poses a threat to the lowe relm. Compare to the all powerful, unified will that is U-Do, the wills of the lower relm are fragmented and weak. Those weak wills fear death, they desire eternity, thus they keep on rejetcing other beings to secure their own existence. But U-Do represents everything the wills from the lower relm that is not.

U-Do being a giant unity that is not bounded by individuality, is percieved as what represents the extinction of self to the wills of the lower relm. This leads the wills of the lower relm to reject things further, as there is now a greater fear that is U-Do. But the act of rejection would only speed up the fragmentation of the wills and the transformation of the gnosis, which would eventually trigger the fail safe of the univese, which would be the end of the world.


Anima:

A force borned of the collective uncounsciousness of the lower relm, it also has the failsafe of the universe. Anima eventually manifested itself in a human form with human will, which is known as YHVShVa, later chaos. chaos, by possesing a human consciousness questioned himself why he exists, what is the purpose of the failsafe? The nature law of the universe demands Anima's existene, but what does the Anima think of itself? Trying to avoid his own as well as the universe's destruction, he allowed himself to be splited into 12 different Anima Relics by Maria. But that is not the answer of his questions.

By the end of Ep.3, chaos eventual realize he can use his power to preserve this universe instead of destroying it. Together with Nephilim, he release the Anima to shift out Lost Jerusalme, where the key to save the universe lies, then entursted that power to Abel, U-Do's terminal that accepted the lower relm. chaos though, should have vanished as his Anima dissipated, but as the will of the universe continues to demand the existence of a failsafe, chaos lived, as a consciousness at the lost of his flesh.


Animus:

The opposing force of Anima, which took the form of Maria. Animus has the ability to reverse Anima's power. Which can reverse the failsafe, allowing the world to be recreated rather than being destroyed. This is also the mechanics behind the Zarathustra System. Long in the past Maria tryied to preserve chaos's life by dividing him into Anima Relics. She then joined Wilhelm to run the system of Zarathustra to preserve this universe.

By the end of Ep.3, Maria eventually splited. Apart of Animus left KOS-MOS and enters Nephilim as she shfits to Lost Jerusalem along with chaos. KOS-MOS also become someone who is Maria but also is not, as she didn't awaken within T-elos as planned. The Maria within Nephilim has take all the fragemented wills into her and shift to the Lost Jerusalem. While the Maria inside KOS-MOS's broken body fallen asleep and slowly drifts back to Lost Jerusalem in space.


Nephilim:

The daughter of Grimore Verm. The first human ever to be "vanished" by Zohar 4000 years ago, as she is the first sample used on the Zohar link experiment (Grimore Verm is fooled by Wilhelm to use his own daghter for the experiment). Her disapperance by Zohar triggered Abel's appearance into the lowe relm, as well as Lost Jerusalem gettign consumed by Zohar. How did she preserved her own consciousness after making contact with Zohar, and how did she linked to Abel remains unknown. But what's known is the fact she is who maed Abel accpets the lower relm. Abel, finding himself among the fragemented and rejecting wills, also felt isolated and rejected in responce (which is a bad thing, you don't want U-Do unhappy). But Nephilim accepted him, which leads Abel to join preserving the lower relm.

Nephilim takes the form of an adult after she recieves the power of Animus, she then gathers all the fragmented wills into herself and shifts to Lost Jerusalem, for the time to come.


Wilhelm:

The person who is in charge of the Zarathustra system. We still don't know what is he. Though, we can do tell he is not as potent as the Anima or Animus. (There is nothing he can do when Maria rejects him and Zarathustra goes berserk.) There is little emotion in him, the only matter that occupies his mind is to defy the the future predetermined by the god. Zarathustra originally was created to invade the upper relm, but Wilhelm knowing the fact that human can never destroy the god, added a different function into Zarathustra, a lower relm preserving function. It works by blinding U-Do's terminals and trap them in lower relm, thus limiting the infleucne from the god, then repeat the currrent universe indefinitly so the will of the lower relm can have aplace to stay.

In the end Wilhelm vanished when Zarathustra is destroyed. Did he just died? Or continued to exist somewhere else? We can not tell.


Testment:

The term reffered to the people that has shed away their reality side and exists only in imaginary side. Yet they can still infleunce the relaity side by accessing its imaginary side counter parts. When they appear before someone, they directly send the image of their existence to the person's consciousness, so their appearance can be reocgnize (No, they don't phsyically appear, there is nothing physical left about them anymore, so if you take a camera and take a shot at them, the photo would show nothing).

Tesetmenst are the opposite to the type of the people that would resonante with the Anima and detonates the fail safe. Taking the will that suppose to trigger Anima and control it in reverse, what you have is a Testment.

To complete the Eternal Return would mean taking all the will that resonates to the Anima and shift them to the opposite (which means taking the will that would cause ther universe to end and use them in the opposite direction for rebirth). But to do so, you don't need to reverse the will of everyone, but just to have enough will reversed that there is enough density to trigger a chain reaction that woudl reverse erbvyone. This is the reason why Wilhelm create the Testments, they are those dense reversed will to start the chain reaction. (And Maria/Animus is the full trigger, which can turn the power of Anima 180 degree upside down)


Legacy of God:

Relics created by the ancient people to channel the power of god. Omega and Zarathustra were the two that were shown extensively in the game.

Y Data are ancient informations that recorded about the Legacies, Joachim Mizrahi has collected the fragmented datas within U.M.N. and put them together. And base on Y-Data Omega, Merkaba, Lamegton were rebuilt. (Zarathustra has been safe and burried deep down in Miktam).

Omega Metempsychosis, Omega's complete form, is a device that allows the beings of the lower relm enter the higher relm and become one with the god. Demetri Yuriev, who has great fear toward U-Do, after knowing destroy U-Do is impossible, he try to escape his fear by becoming the fear, thus become one with U-Do. (Which ultimately made Wilhelm intervene. Wilhelm desires the world of menkind, while Yuriev is willing to sacrfice the entire universe just to make himself a god). On an extra note, Universitas is the Latin of corporation.

Zarathustra, as mentioned before, is a device used for a complete different mean for its intended purpose. As killing the god is impossible, Wilhelm used the system for Eternal Return instead. And because this function was added on later by Wilhelm, it is NOT reocrded inside the Y-Data (reason why Yuriev is oblivious about it).

Though, do not mistaken Eternal Return to be Wilhelm's final goal. The reoccurance of the universe is just a mean to achieve his goal. In the eternal loop, the wills start to change and eventually grew out of Wilhelm's control and ultimately surpass Zarathustra. This is Wilhelm's final goal, to see the change and improvement of human will.


chaos and Jesus:

Is chaos Jesus? The guess is yes after suming up Wilhelm's words and the database.

Wilhelm in his conversation with Margulis mentioned that the real Ormus is created around 6000 years ago when a certain man died. The religion, on the surface, is created to preach the existence of that men. But in relaity, the religion is there to govern and protect the word left behind by that certain man (as well as other legacies of god). The word is "Lamegton". Wilhelm then called the word "The Word of YHVShVa" (YHVShVA is chaos's real name in Hebrew if youcant tell).

If you look intot he database, under the entry of Lamegton, it also stated that chaos left behind the word. So, we can drew the conclusion that certain man=chaos.

Now, Wilhelm said that certain man died around 6000 years ago. Here is some simple math. Lost Jerusalem vanished in late 2000s A.D. Then 4000 something years had passed after Earth has vanished. Christ died and Christinaity officially established in the first A.D.
2000+4000=6000

If the numbers means anything, the likelyhood of chaos being Jesus is very high.


Virgil and Febronia:

Virgil is a Testment, that means he supposedly is one of those people whose will may detonate the failsafe. This means there is something in his will that is beyond the boundary of this universe.

Virgil claim the wills in this world is filled with hate, loneliness, and rejections. But Febronia pointed that Virgil does not have hatred not he wants to reject. The reason why Virgil painfull plays the role of a villian, fit into this world by acting like someone he is not. This might be what of Virgil's will that might resonate with the failsafe. Virgil's will desire a more unified and harmonious state of human will rather than the ongoing fragmentation of wills.

What Virgil desires is to spend the enternity with Febronia. Yet Virgil wants to meet Febronia so much because she had died, and Virgil reocgnize the fact that it is her death that amde him realize he loved her so much. Facing with this contridiction of his desires, he accept Wilhelm's offer, who gave him eternal oppertunity to experince the moment he had with Febronia. (In Eternal Return you experince things over and over again, and there is no contridction to what already happened).

But then, as the game showed us, Virgil ultimately choose neither ends. Instead, he leaves together with Febronia to a different relm, where the two may have their peace.


[ 此贴被Niu在2006-07-14 15:16重新编辑 ]

[5 楼] | Posted:2006-07-12 16:11| 顶端
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我懷疑有人能看懂
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我只看剧透 我死也不耍

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我只看剧透

游戏不打算去玩




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 ディル=リフィーナに存在する四つの月の内、『赤の月』を司る月女神ベルーラの力を模している。

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耍了个第一段,金手指存档,封盘了-v-
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下面是引用桂木弥生于2006-07-12 16:54发表的:
我只看剧透 我死也不耍


鬼母跟這game有過節?

[10 楼] | Posted:2006-07-12 17:11| 顶端
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1代耍了个迷宫 放弃

2代打了个BOSS 放弃

3代开头看了看 放弃


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所以NIU大师再写篇中文的吧- -


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“所以,我们可以通过观察的结论确定某人=卡奥斯”
“威尔海姆说某人其实在大约6000年前就已经死了。”

某人是....?我是从卡奥斯那段开看



我英语比较差,EP前两作都是玩到一半RP(D碟质量),到是存了个(人物,事件,机构,制度,历史)设定(日文)...........
但还是不能很好地理解.....
EP3有时间是一定要玩的,然而光头坏掉了.........> <

所以,剧透是一定要看的


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[13 楼] | Posted:2006-07-12 17:17| 顶端
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NIU大师 你就把你的文章写成中文吧 我也好看看

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下面是引用银河勇音于2006-07-12 17:17发表的:
“所以,我们可以通过观察的结论可确定某人=卡奥斯”
“威尔海姆说那某人其实在大约6000年前就已经死了。”

某人是....?我是从卡奥斯那段开看

.......


真正的Ormus在6000多年前某人死去時成立
那個某人留下了"Lamegton"這個字
而database指出留下Lamegton的人是chaos

遊戲的年代距AD元年剛好6000多年
耶穌基督死於AD元年同年基督教發起

耶穌基督=某人=chaos

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下面是引用桂木弥生于2006-07-12 17:20发表的:
NIU大师 你就把你的文章写成中文吧 我也好看看


好吧
用這周末來翻譯吧

[16 楼] | Posted:2006-07-12 17:25| 顶端
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哦哦哦

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哦· ·
NIU大,还有个问题,是关于ormus的....
印象中,记得以前有人推测ormus人可能就是原住在地球的遗民.....也有说是太古时期某个拥有繁荣文明的星球的子民......
口胡得吧?> <


エンブラ帝国の幼き皇女。異界の英雄を操り、アスク王国を滅ぼそうとしている。
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Ormus其實就是移民船團
地球消滅時向外予宙脫出的組織之一
脫離時同時帶走了大部份的神之遺物

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